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DADT Repeal Passed
Hypatia
w00t!

http://www.politi...46576.html

The Senate voted Saturday afternoon to repeal the ban on gays serving openly in the military, marking a major victory for gay rights and an end to the 17-year-old "don't ask, don't tell" policy.

The bill now heads to President Barack Obama, who plans to sign it into law, overturning what repeal advocates believed was a discriminatory policy that unfairly ended the careers of thousands of gay members of the military over the years.

The 65-31 Senate vote marked a historic — and emotional — moment for the gay-rights movement and handed Obama a surprising political victory in the closing days of the 111th Congress. The legislation had been left for dead as recently as last week after Republicans in the Senate blocked efforts to advance it, yet on final passage, the bill won surprising support from eight Republicans.

The repeal, which would not take effect immediately, ushers in a major cultural shift for a military that has operated under the “don’t ask, don’t tell” policy since the first year of Bill Clinton’s presidency.
 
Photon
It's about damn time.
 
seeker
Hooray, now gay people have the right to openly die in wars. This is a great step forward?
"Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it." - George Santayana
 
Bob of QF
About bloody time the USA took a step into the 21st century... and caught up with the rest of the modern ethics.
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Reality is that which is left, after you stop believing.
 
Doubting Thomas
I wonder if the Republican House will try to do something to reinstitute DADT next year, but it would be a losing battle if they tried.
You're just jealous because the voices are talking to me and not you.
 
catman
I wouldn't be too sure. One should never make assumptions involving fair-mindedness or intelligence, especially where Congress is involved. As my cousin said, "There's Pro-gress, and then there's Con-gress."
"If I owned both Hell and Texas, I'd live in Hell and rent out Texas." - General Sheridan
 
Skeeve
This will sting for quite awhile.

I'm curious to see how petty they can be, now that teh gay are almost citizens.
 
Skeeve
Oh look

Don't Ask, Don't Tell Repeal Opponents Taking Revenge On Russian Arms Treaty

Now that DADT has been repealed, Graham is signaling he'll no longer vote for the treaty. "If you really want to have a chance of passing START, you better start over and do it in the next Congress because this lame duck has been poisoned," Graham said on CBS's "Face the Nation" on Sunday.
 
catman
Just like a petulant spoiled child, except that this idiot is playing for high stakes.
"If I owned both Hell and Texas, I'd live in Hell and rent out Texas." - General Sheridan
 
JohnH
I have no great love for US politicians of any stripe. I will admit a certain fondness for Ron Paul for his ideological purity (most of which I disagree with on a very fundamental level) and his common sense on foreign relations.

But, the pettiness of the current republican party is scary. The fact that the american public have not condemned them for it is even more scary. Why don't people care that those who represent them are not presenting logical and considered reasons for their actions but resorting to petty and irrational explanations for their actions. I could understand, if not agree with, arguments against START along the lines that we would put our defense at risk. An argument against START that is basically they shoved repeal of DADT down our throats so we will resist START is not rational on any level. How can anyone accept this.

The whole thing is particularly weird since the military and the public were so much in favor of repeal of DADT that the republican party had to go along. It had nothing to do with the opposition party.
 
Photon
We won't get rid of our nuclear weapons unless the gays are cast out of the military? How is that not extortion, and irrational idiocy?
 
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