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Skeeve
Please take the poll and let's see what kind of political diversity we have.
"The world is my country, and do good is my religion." - Thomas Paine
 
General-Pryce
Well, if I was a US citizen I'd vote Democrat. But over here, I'm on the verge of voting Conservative (The equivalent of your Republican!).

A change in politics is good for a country. The US needs to go a little more left, and Britain needs to go a bit further right just now. But in a decade I'm sure we'll be swinging the other way again. Labour got in over here because everyone was sick of the Conservatives, but if not the next election then the one after, the Conservatives will get back in as people are now becoming board with Labour.

But as far as the US goes: OBAMA all the way
 
Cynic
I'm voting for Obama, and for the first time since I've been old enough to vote, I feel like I'm actually voting for something instead of just against someone else.
 
derF
I am a registered independent but in Skeeve's survey I voted Democrat. I am just sick and tired of the Republican arrogance and lies and spin and just plain downright dishonesty. Maybe all politicians are a little dishonest and/or immoral but at least we can throw the bums out in shame once in a while.
I'll drink to that. Or anything else for that matter.
 
Skeeve
Unfortunately, I was another victim of the urban myth...felons can't vote.

It wasn't until AFTER registration ended that the truth was discovered.

So, it'll be awhile before I'll be voting, but, Obama would have gotten my vote.

For those that were unaware of felon voting rights:

http://projectvot...1_2008.pdf


"The world is my country, and do good is my religion." - Thomas Paine
 
seeker
I've been voting Democrat since the 70's. Why change now?
 
Cynic
I'm a little fuzzy on why felons can't vote. Seems like sour grapes. A buddy of mine (Republican) doesn't think homeless people should vote because you can't confirm their residence. IMO, when there get to be so many homeless that they're a voting block to be afraid of, Republicans should just put their heads down and shut up. Wink
 
catman
I suppose that the fact that felons can't vote is meant as a deterrent toward becoming a felon. I'm sure that is the first thing on a prospective felon's mind.

It's Obama for me. CBS national news had an accountant compare the candidates' tax plans, and not only did Obama save the families who made less that $250K per year tax money, the projected national deficit increase was lower under Obama. We've seen how good Republicans are with money.
Edited by catman on 10/30/2008 21:10
"If I owned both Hell and Texas, I'd live in Hell and rent out Texas." - General Sheridan
 
Cynic
Oh, but Obama is a socialist because he wants to revert the tax code to how Reagan had it set up. Hey... does that mean Reagan was a socialist too? If only the average republican would just think this shit through. The whole reason McCain needed Joe the Plumber was so this tripe could come out of his mouth, not from his actual campaign.
 
cheshiredragon
catman wrote:
I suppose that the fact that felons can't vote is meant as a deterrent toward becoming a felon. I'm sure that is the first thing on a prospective felon's mind.

It's Obama for me. CBS national news had an accountant compare the candidates' tax plans, and not only did Obama save the families who made less that $250K per year tax money, the projected national deficit increase was lower under Obama. We've seen how good Republicans are with money.


Dallas Cowboy Terrel Owens is a felon and he voted anyway. Do they check that kind of stuff?

In light of seeker's post:
I've never voted. Why start now? hahaha

AND just in that sense if McCain pulls a Rutherford Hayes and wins by just one vote. You can all give me shit about it.
That's right, I said it...
 
neilmarr
Felons can hold office, though? How is 'felon' defined in the US, by the way? Too many unpaid parking tickets or do you have to blow away a 7-11 clerk to qualify for this status? Does it mean that those countless avowed Christians (including the YouTube Revs loudly speaking out on political issues) who were 'born again' behind bars don't get to vote? Neil
 
Skeeve
In the U.S. a felon is anyone that has been convicted of a felony. Grin

And as you can see from the .pdf I linked, felons CAN vote in most states, after they complete all conditions of their sentences.

It's funny that there are two states that have no restriction whatsoever. Felons can vote from prison in Maine and Vermont, apparently.
"The world is my country, and do good is my religion." - Thomas Paine
 
JohnH
I am voting for Cynthia McKinney. She is a lot closer to my political beliefs then anyone else. I agree for the most part with Ralph Nader but I have reasons, that are associated with the fact that he is a lawyer, to not truly trust him.

I will admit that if I lived someplace other then california where Obama is well in the lead I would vote for him. The cavalier attitude of the american republican party towards the people of america is so obvious and so callous that I would be forced not to vote for democrats but against republicans. Yes the old lesser of two evils approach.

As long as minor parties are not allowed to participate in american electoral politics we will remain trapped by two corporate parties who's greatest allegiance is to the wealthy.
 
Cynic
I'd say there's a difference between "allowed to compete" and "can compete". Wink

I'm not sure what to think of what to do about the "two-party system problem", but the older I get the more I wonder if it really is a problem. If you thought people were pissed when W rode into the White House with 49% of the vote proclaiming a "mandate", wait 'til you see a turd like him ride in on 39%.
 
Doubting Thomas
I voted for Barr/Root, the Libertarian candidates (advance ballot). Once this election is over with, I'm going to change my party affiliation to Libertarian since their party platform seems to agree with my political views, namely, giving people the freedom to live their lives the way they want to (as long as their freedoms don't infringe upon anyone else's rights) and to keep government out of people's lives as much as possible. In part this means keeping religion out of government, which would mean no bans on stem-cell research, abortion, blue laws, etc.

I know that a lot of people will say that voting for a third party candidate is throwing your vote away, but I disagree. McCain is going to get Kansas anyway, so my one vote is not going to help. But my one vote can help the Libertarian party. Secondly, if people keep convincing themselves that there are only two candidates to choose from, then there will always be two candidates. I know the media ignores third-party candidates as much as possible, but it would be great if they had more coverage. Of course they just don't have the funding the Republicrats do.

As far as state/federal congressional candidates, I voted straight Libertarian. There were no local county libertarian candidates, so I just voted for who I thought would do the best job. Of course a lot of local elections had only one person running, so my mind was already made up for me. But it would have been fun to write in Hugh G. Rection, Harry Balsac, or Dick Tator.
You're just jealous because the voices are talking to me and not you.
 
Cynic
As I understand the Libertarian agenda, part of preventing the government from impinging upon anyone's rights would amount to allowing individuals from impinging upon other people's rights for them. For instance, under libertarian rule, companies could decide they don't want blacks working for them and that would be legal.
 
cheshiredragon
Doubting Thomas wrote:
But it would have been fun to write in Hugh G. Rection, Harry Balsac, or Dick Tator.


HAHAH How bout:
Phil, Mike, Hunt
Persephone von Douche
Coco Tunnel
Perry Neum
Buff Lightly
Titus Agnatschuff
Tania Hyde
Mephisto Perass
Les Bien
Martha Farquar
Suki R Cox
Ben Dover


I have pages of these...HAHAHA
That's right, I said it...
 
Hypatia
I'm an Obama momma.

(No offense meant toward Michelle)

 
catman
I voted for Obama even though I live in TX, a bastion of conservatism. I have voted Libertarian before, but they don't have enough of a social conscience to my way of thinking, and their Presidential candidate is virtually invisible, at leat in TX. I think the Democrats may make a better showing than anyone expects. If we could rid ourselves of Sen. John Cornyn, I'd be happy. (Who is Cynthia McKinney?)

CD: How about Chuck Roast, Chester Drawers, Connie Sewer and Rachel Slur?
Edited by catman on 10/31/2008 15:48
"If I owned both Hell and Texas, I'd live in Hell and rent out Texas." - General Sheridan
 
cheshiredragon
You forgot Dick Hertz, HAHA
That's right, I said it...
 
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