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Fireproof
Doubting Thomas
Last night I was with the in-laws and my wife's sister brought a movie called Fireproof, starring everybody's favorite kid-TV-actor-turned-evangelist Kirk Cameron. The movie is about a firefighter Caleb Holt (Cameron) who is in a rocky marriage & constantly fights with his wife. Eventually, his father gives him a "love dare," which challenges him to do something different every day to try to save his marriage. Nothing seems to work until Caleb's dad convinces him that he needs God & Jesus. So, all of a sudden, since Caleb accepts Jesus as his personal savior, things start to turn around in his marriage and his wife is convinced to stay with him.

Aside from the poor acting & weak plot, the whole premise of this movie is stupid. Apparently, the only way to be a good husband is to become an evangelical Christian. Plus, the entire movie is overbearingly preachy about becoming & being a good Christian. In fact, that's probably the basis for the whole movie, trying to win converts. Christians keep touting this as a great movie for married couples (it's not, there's not much that shows how to be a good husband other than a short montage of Cameron doing the dishes & sweeping the floor), so they'll probably find someone at their low point (in a bad marriage) and use the movie to try to preach to them.

Another weak sub-point of the movie is that apparently the internet is evil. Or, it was a weak attempt to show that the lead character had a porn addiction, though they never actually mention porn or masturbation. The wife simply says something like, "I know what you've been doing on that internet." Really? We the audience don't. Is he really looking at porn or reading the Onion? Or maybe visiting atheiststoday.com?

I guarantee if you're not a Christian, you'll hate this movie and it's heavy-handed bible thumping. I suffered through it, though I kept hard from rolling my eyes during the entire thing. Christians keep going on & on about how great this movie is but they're completely blinded by the fact that it's a Christian movie. If it were an atheist-themed movie made by atheists, they'd be screaming about how poor the acting & plot was.
You're just jealous because the voices are talking to me and not you.
 
Skeeve
I heard about this movie just before it was released. I'm so sorry you had to sit through it, DT.
"The world is my country, and do good is my religion." - Thomas Paine
 
catman
I don't think I could have stood watching that, at any cost. But maybe that's one of the reasons I'm just the Crazy CatMan at 62. I would least have had to make remarls like, "Are you KIDDING me?" while it was showing. I think I'd rather BE by myself than have to watch that and remain silent! In any case, I probably couldn't have.
Edited by catman on 03/01/2009 02:23
"If I owned both Hell and Texas, I'd live in Hell and rent out Texas." - General Sheridan
 
Doubting Thomas
It was hard, but I managed it. But I can't stand hearing people talk about what a great movie it is to remind people how they're supposed to keep a marriage together. I for one don't need that, because I'm in a good, happy marriage. Secondly, there's nothing really in the movie that shows how to be a good husband. And thirdly, this movie seems to put all the burden of keeping a marriage together on the man. While they were having marital troubles, the wife flirts with a doctor at the hospital where she worked, yet at the end it was the husband begging for forgiveness. Forgiveness for what? Apparently expecting the wife to cook dinner, wanting to buy a boat that he'd been saving up for, and because he was "looking at stuff on the internet." Well, it takes two to make a marriage work.

And in the end, the husband takes his boat money & buys some medical equipment for his wife's mother, and when the wife finds out she all of a sudden loves him again. I guess love can be bought. And when they do salvage their marriage, what do they do? She becomes an evangelical Christian too, and they renew their marriage vows as a "covenant before God." Pfftuke:

One thing that was kind of funny was that my mother-in-law said that it didn't do very well in the movie theaters because Hollywood doesn't like Christian-themed movies. I guess she forgot all about The Passion of the Christ a few years ago. No, it didn't do very well because it's not a very good movie, and has a limited fan base. Only Christians will like this movie, and the general public will laugh at the cheesy acting, weak plot, and overbearing religious overtones.
You're just jealous because the voices are talking to me and not you.
 
Hypatia
It sounds like a horrible movie DT - as you've said, plot, acting, etc.

catman wrote:
I don't think I could have stood watching that, at any cost. But maybe that's one of the reasons I'm just the Crazy CatMan at 62. I would least have had to make remarls like, "Are you KIDDING me?" while it was showing. I think I'd rather BE by myself than have to watch that and remain silent! In any case, I probably couldn't have.


I'm with you Cat - no way could I have stood to watch it, or anything like it. If I'd have had to sit through it because of my spouse, for example (which would be the only thing that could get me stuck sitting through it), at the very least I would have to 'fall asleep', or excuse myself and go out for something to eat and then get lost, etc.

Thanks for the review - I'll be sure to ignore this one.
 
catman
DT: It sounds absolutely dreadful. I don't see how you managed to stifle yourself. Your in-laws bring forth the word 'insufferable' in my mind, but to keep the domestic tranquillity thing going...you're a paragon of self-control.
"If I owned both Hell and Texas, I'd live in Hell and rent out Texas." - General Sheridan
 
Bob of QF
Wow, thanks for the head's up.

I'll be careful to avoid this turkey in the future...
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Reality is that which is left, after you stop believing.
 
Doubting Thomas
What's funny is that in the user comments on imdb.com, there were evangelical Christians talking about how terrible this movie was & how much they hated it. I guess that's all the best you can do when you get a bunch of church people together to make a movie.

I plan to rent "Religulous" very soon to get this crap fest of a movie out of my mind.
Edited by Doubting Thomas on 03/02/2009 10:57
You're just jealous because the voices are talking to me and not you.
 
Hypatia
DT wrote:
I plan to rent "Religulous" very soon to get this crap fest of a movie out of my mind.


Good deal.

Are you going to show it for family movie night? Seems only fair.

:cheerful:
 
catman
Yeah! Great idea. I dare ya, DT!Wink
"If I owned both Hell and Texas, I'd live in Hell and rent out Texas." - General Sheridan
 
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